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Imported Tortoises Could Replace Madagascar's Extinct Ones

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    Two millennia ago, millions of giant tortoises roamed Madagascar, an island nation off the southeastern coast of Africa that is rich in species found nowhere else on Earth. Those tortoises kept Madagascar's unique ecosystem in check by munching on low-lying foliage, trampling vegetation and dispersing large seeds from native trees like the baobab.

    When humans began settling on the island about 2,300 years ago, Madagascar's large vertebrate populations were the first casualties. Dozens of species disappeared altogether, including 17 giant lemurs, three pygmy hippopotamuses, two aardvarklike mammals, a giant fossa (a catlike carnivore), eight elephant birds, a giant crocodile and two giant tortoises. With their demise, the composition of Madagascar's ecosystems changed, shrubs and vegetation clogged the forest floor and wildfires became more frequent and intense.

    Now, researchers think they've found a way to replace Madagascar's lost giant tortoise species: Bring in some relatives, says Miguel Pedrono, a Madagascar-based conservation biologist with the French agricultural research center CIRAD.

    Pedrono's team has identified a very close relative of the extinct giant tortoises, and they plan to transplant a few hundred of them to Madagascar to help fill the ecological gaps left by their extinct kin.

    "This project is not an ecological substitution with an analogous species, like what's been done on other Indian Ocean islands; instead, it's a real reintroduction — the first one of a megafauna species here," Pedrono said. "This will open fantastic perspectives for conservation in Madagascar."

    Ecological shoes to fill

    Using fossils from two species of extinct Madagascan giant tortoises, Pedrono located a group of very similar giant tortoises living on the nearby Aldabra Atoll. The Aldabra giant tortoise's appearance is nearly identical to that of the extinct Madagascan tortoise, and preliminary DNA studies show they're also very similar genetically, Pedrono said. In fact, it's likely that ancestors of the giant tortoises living on Aldabra Atoll made the 249-mile (400 kilometers) swim from Madagascar about 100,000 years ago — the blink of an eye, evolutionarily speaking.

    Since the tortoises are so similar morphologically and genetically, it's likely they'll fill the same roles in the Madagascan ecosystem, Pedrono said. Madagascar currently has no large animals capable of swallowing and dispersing large seeds, such as those from the baobab tree. Without their crucial landscaping services, including grazing on plants and leaf litter, biomass builds up on the forest floor and frequently causes wildfires.

    In addition, many of Madagascar's plants have evolved defenses against large herbivores, such as spines and multiple leaf shapes that protect young sprouts from browsing tortoises. These so-called evolutionary anachronisms could disappear altogether if no species can fill the giant tortoise's shoes, Pedrono said.

    To help the Aldabra giant tortoises take over for their extinct kin, Pedrono's team plans to move 300 young tortoises to a nature reserve in western Madagascar, where they'll live in an enclosed pen for five years. That will give researchers a chance to monitor their eating habits and other ecological interactions before the tortoises can breed and disperse across the island.

    A 'welcome breakthrough'

    The plan seems like a good one, says Elizabeth Hunter, an ecologist at the University of Georgia who has studied giant tortoise restoration on the Galapagos Islands but wasn't involved in Pedrono's research.

    "I would fully support going forward with this plan," Hunter said. "Of course, any time you introduce a species, there are many potential pitfalls, but this plan is cautious and will allow researchers to discover those before anything goes too wrong."

    Giant tortoises are good species with which to start testing these sorts of ecological replacements, Hunter said. They're very easy to contain with fencing and easy to monitor with tracking devices, and most diseases they could carry are species-specific, meaning they likely wouldn't infect other wildlife. Pedrono's team plans to do thorough veterinary checks to make sure the new tortoises aren't bringing invasive plants or exotic diseases with them to Madagascar.

    Similar plans to replace missing giant tortoises have been carried out in several locations, including Seychelles and the Mascarene Islands, and "researchers have seen very good success everywhere," Pedrono told LiveScience's OurAmazingPlanet. Replacement tortoises on the Mascarene Island of Rodrigues are restoring seed dispersal and grazing patterns after only seven years on the island.

    The giant-tortoise-replacement scheme could also be a boon for Madagascar's ecotourism industry, Pedrono said.

    "Visitors, residents and conservationists are all hungry for successful new conservation initiatives," Pedrono wrote in the March issue of the journal Biological Conservation. "Based on its considerable success elsewhere and the optimistic prospects for Madagascar, this proposed giant-tortoise translocation could represent a welcome breakthrough in the struggle to retain and restore the unique biological riches of Madagascar."

    Article and Aldabra Tortoise photo via Imported Tortoises Could Replace Madagascar's Extinct Ones | LiveScience


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    Next week I'll go to Madagascar. When I return I will write a repor..I hope!


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    Next week I'll go to Madagascar. When I return I will write a repor..I hope!
    really? Which zone are you planning to visit?
    I've been there in 2011, in a north to south trip, really wonderful places, and a very particular fauna.. And radiated tortoises everywhere too


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    Very good news! I hope that this project will succeed and will become even bigger -as researchers hope- to save Madagascar's plants and wildlife.


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    really? Which zone are you planning to visit?
    I've been there in 2011, in a north to south trip, really wonderful places, and a very particular fauna.. And radiated tortoises everywhere too
    I'll travel to Nosy Be, fot very relaxing holiday but i would travel for a trip in the heart of Madagascar and in the archipelagos next to me. I think it is paradise for me and for all animals and plants!



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    I'll travel to Nosy Be, fot very relaxing holiday but i would travel for a trip in the heart of Madagascar and in the archipelagos next to me. I think it is paradise for me and for all animals and plants!
    Nosy Be, I've been there too! which resort? Maybe Andilana?


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    Andilana is my future village
    " Trattoria da Noemi " selezionati da Slow Food e Gambero Rosso .
    Vi aspetto in pieno centro a Ferrara. Buon appetito!!


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    Andilana is my future village
    Wonderful!

    Take a lot of pictures!!!


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    Andilana is my future village
    Enjoy it!
    One of the best resorts I've visited.
    Say hello to Carolina/I! You will see!


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    Two millennia ago, millions of giant tortoises roamed Madagascar, an island nation off the southeastern coast of Africa that is rich in species found nowhere else on Earth. Those tortoises kept Madagascar's unique ecosystem in check by munching on low-lying foliage, trampling vegetation and dispersing large seeds from native trees like the baobab.

    When humans began settling on the island about 2,300 years ago, Madagascar's large vertebrate populations were the first casualties. Dozens of species disappeared altogether, including 17 giant lemurs, three pygmy hippopotamuses, two aardvarklike mammals, a giant fossa (a catlike carnivore), eight elephant birds, a giant crocodile and two giant tortoises. With their demise, the composition of Madagascar's ecosystems changed, shrubs and vegetation clogged the forest floor and wildfires became more frequent and intense.

    Now, researchers think they've found a way to replace Madagascar's lost giant tortoise species: Bring in some relatives, says Miguel Pedrono, a Madagascar-based conservation biologist with the French agricultural research center CIRAD.

    Pedrono's team has identified a very close relative of the extinct giant tortoises, and they plan to transplant a few hundred of them to Madagascar to help fill the ecological gaps left by their extinct kin.

    "This project is not an ecological substitution with an analogous species, like what's been done on other Indian Ocean islands; instead, it's a real reintroduction — the first one of a megafauna species here," Pedrono said. "This will open fantastic perspectives for conservation in Madagascar."

    Ecological shoes to fill

    Using fossils from two species of extinct Madagascan giant tortoises, Pedrono located a group of very similar giant tortoises living on the nearby Aldabra Atoll. The Aldabra giant tortoise's appearance is nearly identical to that of the extinct Madagascan tortoise, and preliminary DNA studies show they're also very similar genetically, Pedrono said. In fact, it's likely that ancestors of the giant tortoises living on Aldabra Atoll made the 249-mile (400 kilometers) swim from Madagascar about 100,000 years ago — the blink of an eye, evolutionarily speaking.

    Since the tortoises are so similar morphologically and genetically, it's likely they'll fill the same roles in the Madagascan ecosystem, Pedrono said. Madagascar currently has no large animals capable of swallowing and dispersing large seeds, such as those from the baobab tree. Without their crucial landscaping services, including grazing on plants and leaf litter, biomass builds up on the forest floor and frequently causes wildfires.

    In addition, many of Madagascar's plants have evolved defenses against large herbivores, such as spines and multiple leaf shapes that protect young sprouts from browsing tortoises. These so-called evolutionary anachronisms could disappear altogether if no species can fill the giant tortoise's shoes, Pedrono said.

    To help the Aldabra giant tortoises take over for their extinct kin, Pedrono's team plans to move 300 young tortoises to a nature reserve in western Madagascar, where they'll live in an enclosed pen for five years. That will give researchers a chance to monitor their eating habits and other ecological interactions before the tortoises can breed and disperse across the island.

    A 'welcome breakthrough'

    The plan seems like a good one, says Elizabeth Hunter, an ecologist at the University of Georgia who has studied giant tortoise restoration on the Galapagos Islands but wasn't involved in Pedrono's research.

    "I would fully support going forward with this plan," Hunter said. "Of course, any time you introduce a species, there are many potential pitfalls, but this plan is cautious and will allow researchers to discover those before anything goes too wrong."

    Giant tortoises are good species with which to start testing these sorts of ecological replacements, Hunter said. They're very easy to contain with fencing and easy to monitor with tracking devices, and most diseases they could carry are species-specific, meaning they likely wouldn't infect other wildlife. Pedrono's team plans to do thorough veterinary checks to make sure the new tortoises aren't bringing invasive plants or exotic diseases with them to Madagascar.

    Similar plans to replace missing giant tortoises have been carried out in several locations, including Seychelles and the Mascarene Islands, and "researchers have seen very good success everywhere," Pedrono told LiveScience's OurAmazingPlanet. Replacement tortoises on the Mascarene Island of Rodrigues are restoring seed dispersal and grazing patterns after only seven years on the island.

    The giant-tortoise-replacement scheme could also be a boon for Madagascar's ecotourism industry, Pedrono said.

    "Visitors, residents and conservationists are all hungry for successful new conservation initiatives," Pedrono wrote in the March issue of the journal Biological Conservation. "Based on its considerable success elsewhere and the optimistic prospects for Madagascar, this proposed giant-tortoise translocation could represent a welcome breakthrough in the struggle to retain and restore the unique biological riches of Madagascar."

    Article and Aldabra Tortoise photo via Imported Tortoises Could Replace Madagascar's Extinct Ones | LiveScience
    Sorry but I don't agree with this, I think they should work to preserve local species instead of "importing" aldabras. It's never good when man introduces species in places where they don't belong. What if they outcompete Astrochelys yniphora?


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    Enjoy it!
    One of the best resorts I've visited.
    Say hello to Carolina/I! You will see!
    ok L'll do it..but I'll say hello by who? Your name is Fabrizio right?
    Sorry we are in OT..about the topic i say that they will have breed foreign tortoise in a special oasis during all of their lifetime, not across all of island.
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    This is Andilana





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    Naaaah, I don't like it.. too much sun.. I prefer the classic grey Milan..
    "La cosa che colpisce di più in assoluto di Drakul è la sua completa incoerenza nel rispondere. Gli si chiede "Che ore sono?" e lui ti risponde "No grazie, non fumo". Incredibile" (Cit. Ric Qua al VR)


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    Naaaah, I don't like it.. too much sun.. I prefer the classic grey Milan..
    I prefer too..


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